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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 14, 2010 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH- anti-Europe?

1984. I was there - and I imagine a good many others here were also. This is the show where I once and for all beat down Dire for chief asshole award as I shouted out
"this song sucks" during the post-Terrapin Brent tune...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-04-14.neumann-u87.eaton.miller.90595.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Apr 14, 2010 1:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Thanks for this, bd!

I don't usually venture into '84 but this foray has been well-rewarded :)

79-83, 88-89 gets most of my attentions in terms of this era but this show has the goods :)

Jerry's voice is clear and strong and his guitar is absolutely on fire... love the way those high notes ring out and echo in the room on TLEO... Terrapin is truly fantastic with all the right lyrics (!)

Simply put, every song is played with conviction... too often in the 80's you can hear Jerry half-assing it but he really puts everything he's got into this performance(which sadly is not as much as he had just a couple years past... but this does not take away from the effectiveness of the performance).

In fact, the whole band plays with conviction on every tune... I don't sense any throw aways here... except for Don't Need Love... which is pretty terrible... is that Bob playing lead cuz Jerry and Phil walked off the stage?

Morning Dew is also on fire and delivered with lots of passion in terms of playing and singing.

Now onto the rest of the show :)

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Poster: plbowler Date: Apr 15, 2010 6:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Wow! you just launched the 80's for me

This show is great. I am a
spoiled-rotten-know-nothing-saw-the-dead-once-in-91-was-2-years-old-when-pig-pen-died-johnny-come-lately-internet-hack
so my opinion carries no weight, but I am a HUGE Keith homer, I've always avoided the Brent era, especially after grabbing a few random torrents early in my career and running across a VERY disturbing I will take you home.

anyway, VERY good stuff I will press pause on the Summer of '73 for a while.
THANKS!

oh and a side question, does anyone know off hand what the time period when Phil was phoneing it in (by his own admission?), I'm not a Phil nut or anything but the idea of a show where he isn't the best musician within 400 miles is concerning...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 15, 2010 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! you just launched the 80's for me

The early '80s is when Phil said he was pretty much lost in a beer & coke haze all the time, '81/82 in particular. In his book he points out that the band wasn't listening to each other much on stage & the music often suffered.
Then again, I think '81 is the Dead's best year of the '80s. '82 is probably the most Phil-light year, there's lots of shows where he's not very up-front; but it's a very consistent year nonetheless. By fall '83 he's noticeably more involved. If you like that '84 show, you can try the Philadelphia shows from April '84, or head to the fall with 10-12-84. Then check out spring '81 & Sept/Oct '83. (By the way, if you're a Phil fan it's better to listen to the AUDs from this period than the SBDs, where he's often mixed down.)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Apr 15, 2010 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Wow! you just launched the 80's for me

Welcome aboard! As for your opinion not carrying any weight, I don't think anyone's opinions are heavier or lighter so that makes yours no more or less important than anyone else's. Seems to me that it the reason why people have opinions or perhaps their inability to express those reasons that usually cause the problems. Worse would be to express your opinion as fact. My point is don't assume that your opinion doesn't matter because you didn't see shows in the summer of '73. Neither did Cliff Hucker but if he told me a show from that era was good, i would believe him. There are also plenty of folks around here who can steer you to some good '80s shows. For '84 I think the October run is a great place to start although like you i prefer the '70s.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Apr 14, 2010 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

I know it's unpopular but I'll say it again. That is one of my favorite Brent tunes. However, Jerry would also side with you and the majority. If you look at reviews of shows where this tune is played many note that "Jerry leaves the stage mid song"

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Poster: RiverRat1492 Date: Apr 14, 2010 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Yeah, that was BRU-tal! Thanks for pointing it out, makes '72 all the sweeter.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Apr 14, 2010 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

actually one of, if not my favorite Brent tune!
Oh well, I'm used to being an outcast!!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 14, 2010 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

is "favorite Brent tune" sort of like "favorite Bobby slide solo"?

And, for what little it is worth, I'm not a Brent "hater".

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Poster: billydlions Date: Apr 14, 2010 3:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Hey BD, check out the Brent tune here (IJWTMLTY). If Jerry played like this on all of Brent's songs, than I wouldn't care how many songs he sang. A great show as well.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd84-10-08.sbd.wiley.14450.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by billydlions on 2010-04-14 22:39:55

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 14, 2010 3:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Will do. I saw Brent make some shows really happen - I'm just ragging on him for this tune as it was real letdown at that show (for me).

That Bobby slide solo .... that's another matter.

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 14, 2010 7:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Um, that song does suck. I'm with Blue. I Don't Need That Kind of Love.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Apr 15, 2010 5:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Me three - the placement after Terrapin doesn't help

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Apr 14, 2010 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

the Brent let down tune for the years I was seeing them was I will take you home out of space. BUZZKILL

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Apr 14, 2010 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

Wow, another great '84. Between this and bd's TDIH, 1984 is wholly satisfying on this lovely spring day.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Apr 14, 2010 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH- anti-Europe?

I've enjoyed those on occasion too!!